Monday, May 13, 2013

Photographs Lie - The Mavic gruppo that didn't quite exist

Mavic's last hurrah in the complete gruppo market came in the early 00's. Mektronik, introduced in 1999, seems to have cowed Mavic enough that I can't imagine we'll ever see them market a complete group again. Expensive, quirky, and downright troublesome, Mavic was looking just a little too far ahead when they pushed their even more futuristic replacement for the Zap to market. As Shimano and Campagnolo have demonstrated, today the world is ready for electronic shifting. 10 years ago, not so much.

But a gruppo isn't a gruppo without a full array of components. Mektronic provided the integrated brake levers and electronic rear derailleur. Lesser known, but also present was the Mektronic front derailleur - a mechanical derailleur, a pretty significant departure from their 810/860 design to work with the narrower 9 speed drivetrains that were popular at the time. Mavic also introduced their leaf-spring R3 brake at the same time. All were available, for a price, with the brakes still available up until the last couple of years.

But what about a crank and headset?

Mavic clearly had plans to offer Mektronic as a complete group. And to do that, they would need a crank/bottom bracket, and a headset. Their 2000 catalog showed just such items.

The headset, a threaded model, would be de rigueur, with 1" threadless headsets appearing on most high end frames right around that time.

The crank looks to be ISIS. It looks familiar, but I can't put my finger on what other vendor's crank it looks like. My guess? It's an FSA crank, or one of the closely related companies in Taiwan, who was probably also the source for the brake calipers and front derailleur.

Regardless of who was going to make the crank, it seems that it never happened - or if it did, it certainly never happened in quantity. I've never seen the crank (and associated bottom bracket) or headset, other than in the catalog. Everything else was produced, though certainly not in the quantity of earlier Mavic components. If you have a crank or headset, please send me pictures!

Huge thanks to John Liu for providing me the images from the 2000 Mektronic catalog!

6 comments:

Mavicmaniac said...

I think this front derailleur was made by Simplex as 860. I really like all Mavic information about 80/90 stuff, I have many Teka/ONCE Mavic stuff. I would be a dream if Mavic will develop a complete new groupset

Mavicmaniac said...

Do you have information about rare Mavic Cosmic 501?, the early Cosmic with threaded hub (for freewheel) instead the 571 cassette system

TLJ said...

Have a 92 lemond carbon for sale and need to ask you some questions but can't find your email address.

Jeremy said...

You can reach me at jrauch@gmail.com

Anonymous said...

That crank looks a lot like a Ritchey I had back then. Not sure who made it though.

DrMobile said...

Hi

I am trying to recreate that group - so far I have the shifters, computer, brakes, derailleurs...

Of course that is where things get interesting:

Crank

That is not a Ritchey crank - I know that because I have on on my other bike - see here:

http://www.performancebike.com/images/performance/products/large/50-2941-BLK-TOP.JPG

The indent is much longer than what is seen in the Mavic picture.

Cranks that look similar to the one in the picture are:

http://chainreactioncycles.scene7.com/is/image/ChainReactionCycles/prod41400_IMGSET?wid=500&hei=505

http://ep1.pinkbike.org/p4pb9230883/p4pb9230883.jpg

http://media.nashbar.com/images/nashbar/products/250/YC-SLK-NCL-TOP.JPG

I have decided to go with the latter - it has the spider carbon wrapped so slightly different but I happened to have a pair lying around.

Front Derailleur

Very very hard to identify at the angle it was photographed at. Only identifying features are the curve of the cage and the color combination. A likely suspect is:

http://www.performancebike.com/reviews/performance/power/pwr/product-reviews/Bike-Parts/Road-Bike-Components/Front-Derailleurs/FSA/p/50__3119-FSA-C-16-Clamp-On-Front-Derailleur.html

WHich keeps with the FSA sourcing however it is not quite right. The pivot mechanism looks closer to a Mavic 862:

http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=9c85aeff-1b52-4c5a-8764-9da757a7d70d

I may just go with an 862

Headset

Mavic had a history of sourcing headsets from Stronglight so I started there. The A9 is the correct period but does not match. THe headset in the picture does not have the same flat sides:

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=stronglight+a9+black&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMI3suMzP3vxgIVyZKUCh1w7AZO&biw=1131&bih=560

Many many pages of images later I found this:

http://www.vpcomponents.com/newen/product_detail.php?id=221

CLosest match out there that I found - might go with that


Bottom bracker - my cranks are Shimano Octalink and frame Italian thread so I am limited to Shimano options

I would love someone else to add some information to this. Mavic has no email information on their website nor a message option on their Facebook page. I have contacted them via twitter with no luck

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